Windows Vista and casual games: the woe starts now
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By Derek Boiko-Weyrauch Jan 30, 2007, 22:20 GMT
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I purchased windows vista home premium today loaded it . It loaded no problem found all the drivers except for lexmark printer so tried hp printer found drivers no problems. My bad for ever buying A lexmark they have been promising vista drivers since december at their website then they changed it to january , 2 more days it will be feb., still no drivers so when my hp printer bites the dust i'll replace it with an hp or cannon but never a lexmark again.
Sorry but, i'm waiting AT LEAST until the first service pack before i buy it, and i'm also waiting on the driver support especially the NVIDIA drivers which still don't have full functionality under Vista x64.
Good point, wait before you upgrade to Vista, for a good while. The way I figure, even with XP running for around 6 years, MS couldn't get the ducks in a row on existing problems. What makes you think they are going to sell a new bloated OS without (and some) problems? Same scenario as when XP launched, it is going to take a good while for Vista to become half ass stable And while you are tweaking, trying to get drivers to work, running your AV, dealing with security, spending a day trying to figure out why your XP systems are having trouble connecting on a Vista Network, -- those on XP (and those especially running OS/X will actually be doing the work that earns a paycheck).
If you want to play games...buy a game console.
If you want to continually deal with viruses, driver issues, dll errors, and a world of crap software where you constantly have to tweak, diagnose problems, and spending time tinkering rather than actually doing productive work for at your job or for your company...buy Vista.
If you want to turn your computer on and go straight to work on your projects...buy a Mac.
In the mean time, http://www.apple.com/switch/
mcwookie is an idiot. why would you buy a console for games, if your a real gamer? my pc now is right there with the ps3, and when i install direct X10, the ps3 is going to look like the N64 next to it. just because he cant afford a high end pc, or to upgrade every so often means he should go buy a console. he can sit on his Mac while he plays it.
Mcwookie is right. Vista will be nothing but trouble, and once people find its weakpoints, there'll be just as many viruses to deal with as there are in XP.
If you are the serious gamer, naturally you'd buy as many consoles/games as you can, and definitely won't switch to Vista.
And if you want to be productive and have fun at the same time, get a Mac.
To the author of the 'mcWookie Sucks' comment:
I was making my comments regarding Vista from a business standpoint. There are actually people in this world that use computers to be productive. Not everyone spends 20 hours a day playing World of Warcraft and masturbates to how awesome their computer is. Never speak again.
It seems game programming in Vista is going to be very different. A lot of control has to be handed over to the OS than before which understandably is unsettling.
Windows security is something everyone has demanded and these issues are part of the side effects.
Vista, like XP, isn't the end-all and be-all of OSes no matter what marketing tells you :) It's a 'natural evolution' for Microsoft and the fanfare and put-downs we see just after release is the fact that, once again, the learning curve has started once again on how to use this new OS. It's always frustrating being taken out of our zone of comfort.
So will most Windows users buy Vista? You bet they will. My advice on this, like many others, is to wait a little more. Research like mad. Don't rely on a single viewpoint to make your decision.
Vista wont be touching my existing PC for a while. I intend on saving for a completely new system to run Vista on...by the time I do save up enough, I'm guessing a lot of the bugs found by early Vista adopters will be ironed out be with or without a service pack.
Hmm... My dad and his fellow audio engineering students would love to know where you get these mythical problemless Macs.
(I would too, so I don't have to listen to him complain all of the time)
At one of my clients, over half the users use Macs. I find it funny how a good portion of them also install XP on their
Some Of you people did not hear me I said vista downloaded smoothly its not microsoft's fault that some these other companys are dragging their feet when it come to drivers they have had plenty of time HP had the needed drivers . I loved XP and I'm Really like vista and I like challenges I don't mind tinkering around.
I have no fears clone your operating system back it up . antyhing goes wrong your up and running again in 10 minutes.As for mac people who like to trash microsoft you should stick to your apples your not intelligent enough to use windows.
ive been researching mac osx and windows vista for about 4 months now and all i have really learned is the anamosity between hardcore mac and windows users. as a windows user for all my life, and a mac user while i was in high school, and i can tell you the advantages of both. i like both, and i would use both. but when it comes to personal preference id have to say windows all the way. its really doesnt come down to which os is better, its comes down to preference and comfort level. ive tried linux and no matter what anyone saids, it is not user friendly and does not have near the features that the other two do. so for sake of arument, linux is out. everyone make hardware and software for pcs. not the same can be said for mac. basically what is comes down to is what is popular? no matter what is accually better. i have never though macs were that much better than pcs, mac users are just brain washed into thinking so. i see steve jobs as a techno version of hitler, he is telling you what to like. i see these commercials for macs and they say how they dont get viruses, and the come with everything you need. anyone heard of a mac mini? does that come with a keyboard? nope. does it come with a monitor? nope. does it come with a camera? nope. but my Hp pavillion notebook does. and with my free virus software i got from my internet provider it doesnt have any viruses. im also sick of hearing mac users bashing vista because you have to 'upgrade' to extremely new hardware, i guess they forgot about switching from mac classic. so to all you macintrash queers, go have sex with your airport, beeoches.
When I installed WildTangent software on my system it became near impossible to remove. Granted that was a few years ago but I would never use the software again because it caused so many problems. I believe it could be spyware. Thank you to MicroSoft for getting rid of it.
I think it's probably a good idea to wait; invariably, even the most simple software will have bugs in the beginning, and it takes time for the developers to sort those bugs out. With something as large and complex as Vista, there's no doubt in my mind that there's gonna be a lot of problems in the beginning: crashes, driver and program incompatibilities, and a lot of other stuff that's gonna make something as simple as checking email a huge pain for the 1st few months, or even a year. If you use your PC to work, don't buy Vista yet, otherwise you'll be forced to long 'breaks'...
Another reason to expect problems is simply because Vista is made my Microsoft. I'm not biased against them, except when it comes to their solutions; I couldn't care less that they have a monopoly and run around strangling other businesses, so as long as they deliver the goods (among some other things). But when it comes to operating systems, it becomes pretty obvious that Microsoft engineers are in over their heads...I'm a software engineer, and the first thing I learned (in my freshman year) was that solving software problems is about balancing requirements. But the thing that separates the good engineers from average ones is clever solutions that can give you almost everything at once (speed, stability, reliability, security, etc). Microsoft engineers consistently fail to come up with clever, ingenious and elegant solutions. You can see the results of this failure everywhere in the OS, but let's take security in Vista an example; the engineers decided (again) to use the 'bigger is better' approach, which fails more often than it doesn't in software engineering. Instead of coming up with clever filtering processes and mechanisms to weed out bad programs/viruses/whatever, they just build a huge fence with a security guard at the door...What does that mean for the user? Lots of inconvenience, as every time you want to do something, you have to answer a thousand questions, basically making YOU do all the security checking...
I should mention that I haven't tried Vista yet; I'm basing my judgment on articles I've read that explain Vista' functioning, and Microsoft' past behavior.
If you're looking for security though, Linux is the way to go (it's practically impossible to even GET a virus on Linux; they built it that way). I've tried Linux, and though it's not very user friendly, it provides extremely high security through clever design (though you do have to enter a 'root password' every time you make major changes, but at least you don't get pop-up after pop-up asking for your attention).
WildTangent is so hard to get uninstalled. It's like a nasty virus or something. I agree with you, it's as bad as spyware.
Ironically, Linux is more user friendly than Windows to me, that is, it's easier to troubleshoot. That said, Windows has it's good points, and that is mainly, half of the market writes for it... that's not really a good point but.
The major problem with Vista is it's EULA, the fact it's a bit rushed, and the probable bugs. All of this should (hopefully, excluding the EULA) be fixed within a few months, and then I'll think about upgrading.
I see people comparing vista to XP, but in fact it's like comparing apples to oranges. They are light years apart. Vista had at least a dozen different builds before the final release. When XP was in the developing stage broadband internet was not as available as it is today, so Microsoft couldn't make the beta versions available to the general public for evaluation which was not the case with Vista. 5 freaking years it took MS to develop Vista, so it better be stable. I had the RC2 on a very slow PC and beleive it or not I had it for 3 months and it never crashed. The final RTM edition is improved even more so there will be very few if any glitches. I don't think MS would want to get burned again, so don't assume that it will be the same as XP. Vista will be the best OS we've ever seen so far.
I have a number of expensive games that worked fine with XP and no longer work with Vista. I am feeling very much ripped off right now. Newer is not necessarily better. Apparently Microsoft only expected people to run a handful of Microsoft products after upgrading our hardware then paying for their overly priced Vista OS.
Who is Microsoft to 'automatically' bar me from joining game servers because of ESRB ratings or anything else for that matter!! Vista doesn't even provide a way to shut this friggin service off as near as I can tell. Are these people all retards?
Vista Sucks, With a patch, it will still suck with a patch. If you haven’t used it consider yourself one of the luckily ones. I have two different places where I use computers. Home and my shop. Home, has internet the shop doesn’t. Vista has every you can think of to protecting the idiot internet user from them self's. Lot’s of crap running in the background.
My new computer with Vista takes for ever to load a program. ‘Magix movie edit pro 10’ On xp it comes up in 7 to 15 seconds, according to what other programs I’m also ruining. Vista, takes minutes. And the program doesn’t see the two dvd burners in the computer. Vista see them, so my conclusion that they change the dll that the program uses.
If I was using a computer to make a living with I would looking into buying a Mac. Not because I like Mac’s. But why would I stay with a computer and having the operating system completely changing every 5 to 7 years so my software doesn’t work any more.
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