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World of Warcraft passes the 8 million player mark
By M&C Jan 11, 2007, 20:33 GMT
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I am seriously suprised that WoW is this popular when there are so many other games out there that offer a better experience.
I think that WoW's player growth is self-fulfilling. Players join *becuase* it's the most popular game in the world, and thus it's cyclical. If an MMo ten times better than WoW were to be released, yet have 1/10 the number of players, it would have a much slower growth rate. Popularity is attractive, and so to is the diversity garnered by so many players.
I am seriously shocked that WoW has this many players being that there are plenty of girls out there that offer a much better experience.
thats 8 million lives ruined. Thanks blizzard!
FFXI FTW
yeah, now there's 8 million geeks who aren't a part of a normal society anymore
I think you would be amazed at the demographics of the population. Many players are normal working class fold with spouses or boy/girl friends! Labeling a MMO player as a geek is just as narrow minded as any stereotype.
Guild wars is such a better game and WOW just copied the idea of Guild Wars. Guild War doesn't have the monthly fee either.
And AA (America's Army, http://www.americasarmy.com/) hit the 7 million mark ages ago.
To the person who said 'World of Warcraft' copied Guild Wars -- you might want to check out which one was in development first (World of Warcraft) and which one was on the market first (World of Warcraft). They can't have copied something that came out AFTER they did -- and no, I'm not a fan of the game.
Actually there is 799,999,999 players since I bought the game played for a few days and never went back. I'm sure there are a million or so of those people out there so that number is inflated. Must be the total number of security codes activated. If not then well 8million is a great success.
8,000,000-1 != 799,999,999
I think it's pretty arrogant to assume that 8 million people participate in something they don't enjoy just because it's 'popular'. I play once a week or so, and I enjoy it. It's easy, it's lazy, it's pretty (in a design sense - other games might be running off a better engine, but WoW has a handcrafted sexiness), and most of all, it's accessible. I think for most people (me included) it's biggest appeal is as a sexy, interactive chat room.
I tried Guild Wars, and Everquest, and FFXI, and none of them appealed to me. Still, feel free to tell me what I do and don't like.
I don't understand people who use it as a substitute for life, but meh, it's their choice.
GW > WoW.
For four simple reasons:
a) Doesn't require boring, repetitive gameplay based on items and levels.
b) No monthly fee
c) Better service from Arena Net (who is amazing) and updates, game management, and additions to the game. (2 complete expansions in 1 year, another in 6 months)
d) The game requires intellect, not time. PvP requires thought, management, and strategy, not high levels, better items, or more time pumped into the game. This isn't the American 'hard work warrants rewards' type of game, like Diablo 2 (which I used to love). That's why Guild Wars and other MMORPGs that have been released since WoW haven't done as well. Guild Wars probably has similar European numbers though. Guild Wars FTW. :D.
Uh, GW is a much, much worse game. Thanks for trying, though.
Much worse how? Come on you can at least try.
I tried Guild Wars when it was in beta and one event in particular sticks out in my mind. I remember climbing up onto the porch of some house, then being thwarted in jumping off the edge by a row of potted plants. It's stupid but the inability to jump and the solidness of something so silly really really bugged me.
Obviously that's not what the game experience is about, but really if it comes down to PVP vs PVE, then that's just preference and people should play whichever they enjoy.
It's just business, they say this so other people join.. i bet only 2 million people will be playing online.. rest got bored..
Which company would you rather own? A company with an online game with 8 million subcribers who pay no monthly fee or a company with an online game with 8 million subscribers who pay $15 per month each?
I'm pretty sure the folks at Blizzard are not entirely disastified with WoW.
not worth it, 'is that figure', the total, or is that active subscribers. I used to be one but the game is to repeditive. Paying $14.95 just to wait for an open spot on the server is not worth it. (a year ago). so I did what was best; canceled my account and scent the game disc through a paper shreader.(that was the best part of the game)!
'a) Doesn't require boring, repetitive gameplay based on items and levels.'
-have you actually played through the game? or let me guess, you're someone who buys gold online... you apparently haven't contributed to your guild at all either considering the cost of guild addons... or let me guess, you're in a guild that bought its gold. the basis of all mmos is farming, and there's plenty of that in gw... of course there's other thing to do, just like there is in WoW.
'b) No monthly fee'
-yea, but you get what you pay for... gw feels too restricted in that it's all instanced and you can't jump :P ... WoW has a feeling closer to morrowind or oblivion, it's all open land.
'c) Better service from Arena Net (who is amazing) and updates, game management, and additions to the game. (2 complete expansions in 1 year, another in 6 months)'
-i never noticed a difference at all in service except for the maintenance on the WoW servers... other than that both offer excellent service, updates and the WoW expansion is coming out soon.
d) The game requires intellect, not time. PvP requires thought, management, and strategy, not high levels, better items, or more time pumped into the game. This isn't the American 'hard work warrants rewards' type of game, like Diablo 2 (which I used to love). That's why Guild Wars and other MMORPGs that have been released since WoW haven't done as well. Guild Wars probably has similar European numbers though. Guild Wars FTW. :D.
-ok, time to break this down... gw requires builds that you can change any time, if one doesn't work you can go back and change, WoW has talents that you CAN'T go back and change so it requires intelligence as well and plenty of thought as to how you need to progress your guys. PvP doesn't require as much thought as they've obviously brainwashed you into believing. it requires good group dynamic... you can have all the intelligence you want but if your team sucks you aren't going to win. management is just as crucial in WoW PvP... strategy as well. you can't tell me levels have nothing to do with it, have you ever kept your e/mo at level 9 so you could own low level people in the ascalon arenas? also, the better items aspect in WoW comes down to strategy :P...
frankly, i currently play both GW and WoW, they both have aspects about them that the other is lacking, however for an RPG WoW takes the cake...
Guild Wars is a very, very beautiful game; but the notion that GW > WoW is just silly. GW PvE is extremely underdeveloped compared to WoW, and the game is mostly designed around PvP (hence, 'Guild' Wars, and not 'Environment' Wars). If you love PvP and customizing your toon's appearance to movie-quality levels, then GW is great. But for robust gameplay, WoW really does offer something for everyone. A better comparison for the depth of WoW would be DAoC, but obviously, WoW executes much better. They both have decent economies and a variety of things to do, but WoW looks better and plays better (not quite as tedious). GW has no tradeskills at all, which is primarily why PvE is so boring.
The other major difference between GW and WoW is instanced vs. persistent content. If you like mostly playing instances, GW is great. But part of why WoW is so popular is the random encounters you have running around the world and being able to make impromptu groups for casual questing. You still have instances if you want them, but having a big, continuous, semi-persistent world is much more immersive. PvE in GW is lonely. You might as well play a single-player game.
WoW is not popular because of self-fulfilling prophecy or positive feedback cycles (server population limits guarantee the latter is not true). It's popular because it does more things right than most of the other MMOs out there. You can level to max on questing alone, which is great for people who don't like killing the same mob 1,000 times. You have a huge variety of items and world actions, lots of tradeskills, and a good variety of races/classes. There's always something to do. If you get bored with one thing, you can go do another.
And the Auction House makes it far more easier to trade than spamming out a trade channel like in GW. Really, the only major virtue of GW is that it is a very beautiful game. If WoW looked as good as GW, it would have basically no competition. But for a continuous world as big as WoW, that would be an enormous labor and computational burden. Nobody would have the hardware to play the game, either customers or Blizzard, and Blizzard would have to hire every 3D artist on the planet to keep up.
The positive-feedback cycle theory is refuted by all the MMOs that came before WoW, from Ultima Online to Asheron's Call to EverQuest to Dark Age of Camelot. All those games had huge player bases, but WoW is currently on top. There must be something else differentiating them. I'd say there's lots of things. That is not to say that Blizzard created something 100% original. Clearly, there are ideas taken from every MMO that came before, and Blizzard owes a huge design debt to all the companies that made those games. They pulled a real Microsoft in the MMO space. But unlike M$, they created something people actually want to use, rather than use because they just don't have any real choice.
Personally, while I do play WoW, I'm just waiting for Starcraft 2, the sequel to the best PC game of all time. ;)
Starcraft 2 will probably never see the light. But I agree, SC is the best game of all times.
rofl @ Eddie.
FFXI has got to be the worst MMO of all time.
F' real life.
Sunlight is for people with families.
Funny how people think that anyone who plays WoW is a geek/nerd/dork/whatever.
I know people who are faaaar from that yet they play and enjoy the game. I know people who work full time jobs, have families, that play.
Counter-Strike will always own this game and its community. Blizzard has nothing on Valve / Source. GL HF...and get pwnt, noobs.
I don't see what all this debate is over WoW...
It is a game... Besides, isn't the team that made Guild Wars the same team that used to work for blizzard, and helped develope the major game play in WoW?
I meen, if the market value of the best lvl 60 equipment in WoW was high, does that really effect the price of milk in my local grocery store?
Stop bickering about who's game is better and get down to whats real... Regardless of the game if it is making you happy... stick with it.
In the press release it does verify the 8 million figure only includes active accounts. This implies another surge after the expansion comes out.
I agree with fire. It is just a game. Who is the bigger nerd the one who plays WoW casually or the one the sits on here and gripes about how their game is better?
I have never played GW and I don't want to. There is nothing overall appealing that would take me away from WoW besides graphics. And honestly, when I think of MMORPG i think gameplay, massive environments, great social network, innumerable about of things to do. If I wanted graphics I can go play Fear or Oblivion.
I have 4 level 60's characters. I work about 50 hours a week, take college courses, and take time to be with my girlfriend and hang out with my friends. WoW is merely a game, thats it. If playing a game to relax and enjoy free time makes me nerdy, then thank God I am a nerd.
I think it's funny how quickly people can get so angry about something like this.
WoW is the first (and so far only) MMO that I've ever actually enjoyed playing.
I've tried a great deal of MMOs that I found completely horrible to me - Ascheron's Call, Ultima Online, Ragnarok Online, Dark Age of Camelot, Guild Wars, City of Heroes/Villains, and even more that were not RPGs, like Tribes and Counterstrike. Not one of them has given me even a shadow of the experience that WoW has, and I'm quite happy to be going on my 3rd year of playing it. That being said, it is still a matter of opinion - depending on the type of game you want to play.
A friend recommended Guild Wars - she had been playing it for awhile, and I ended up buying it. I played for about a week, completely forbidding myself from even logging on to WoW to 'give it a chance'. While I did find a few things that I liked, I just could not get past a lot of the things that I found to be major flaws. Battles seem slow and unexciting, your character development is very limited, and it just doesn't feel like it has the scope that WoW does. It looks exceptionally beautiful, but I've always held to the philosophy that graphics do not make a game - I still prefer 'old school', horrible looking games to about 98% of what is being produced now to look stunning, but lack substance. WoW, while not looking nearly as crisp, and detailed as GW, has found a very nice balance between style, art, and functionality. The world has an almost cartoon feel to it, but it is rich in variety, and themes.
I read an earlier post that compared GW to WoW based on the number of Expansions, and I had to comment:
GW has release 2 expansions already. Essentially adding a huge amount of content in each expansion.
WoW is just about to release it's first expansion, but this is because several of the free patches that have been released since it started have contained new content. Over the course I got to see the release of 2 different patches that added 2 huge new Dungeon to the world, complete with world events that everyone could participate in. There was also a patch that release several new outdoor bosses to give players new challenges. The PvP battlegrounds were created and added in a patch to give players an opportunity to test their skills against other players - and then recently changed to allow PvP between servers, and then even more recently a new Arena system that allows 1 on 1, 3 on 3, or 5 on 5 battles was added.
WoW has reached 8 million players because Blizzard has done a good job - in fact, just about every game they ever produced has been exceptional.
Before you start going on about how I must not have a life, and how separated from society I am, my fiancé (who also plays WoW, at least as much as I do) and I both hold full time jobs, she's taking some college classes, and we're about to have a baby. I would not call that 'not having a life' ;)
Let me finish by saying that you are completely free to make your own decisions about what game you like better, or what game you like to play, but if you haven't given WoW a try, and are at all interested in gaming, I suggest you see what it's like, and make your own decision.
It is obvious that WoW is top dog since a simple article like this draws such derisive comments.
I've beta tested or played almost every MMO that has been released. WoW has a magic formula of easy to get into, easy to stay, tons of content to keep long-term players interested and the ability to accommodate all the major types of players: achievers, explorers, socializers and PvPers.
I've been playing since beta and my wife has played since public release. She has five level 60s and between us we have about 30 characters. Yes, there are times when we feel 'playing this character is like work,' but all we do is log out that character and try another one. We may not feel like playing a certain class or character, but we always feel like playing WoW.
You'll hear players complain about this patch or this change, but we keep playing. Having played some MMO since 1997, I've learned that those complaints are a good sign. It means the playerbase *cares* about the game and they want it to be the best experience possible.
I have no doubt that WoW will be around for a long time, and it will take a major paradigm shift in MMO gameplay to dethrone it.
Id like to know what games are better than wow at the moment? No game offers anything close to the depth this masterpeice does.
Everyone Should apply for lord of the rings online beta, and then play the game when it comes out...It kills WOW, and frankly makes it its bitch
If anybody it looking to check out a game with alot more options than WoW check out Vanguard Saga of Heroes. I'm in the beta test right now and it's working up to be a better game than WoW. Like everybody and their mothers has mentioned before my post, it probably won't get too many players just because of how popular WoW is right now, but I think that if any game has a chance at dethroning WoW it's this. The developers of this game are the original developers of Everquest. With 19 playable races and I believe 16 playable classes, about 40 slider bars to let you customize your players looks. You'll have a feeling that there's not a few hundred thousand people out there running around who look, feel, and play exactly like you. There's three continents already so it will be at least on par with WoW as far as areas to explore. Ohhh you also get your first mount at lvl 10 and there's player controlled flying mounts and you get to build and pilot your own ship. You can buy land and build on it as well. http://www.vanguardsoh.com/ for anyone who wants to check it out.
Bought WOW the week it came out, played it for 2 months, went back to DAoC because it bored me to tears in that amount of time. Yes, I agree with the person who says wow's popularity is due to the snowball effect. Everyone wants to try it simply because they think must be best game ever with these kind of numbers.
WoW is a very well done game. I've played it, on and off, for a couple years. I was in the beta for it, and I've beta-tested many other MMOs... honestly, while it's not my favorite (my favorite was Earth and Beyond, which sadly didn't make it), it is still one of the best I've ever played.
Also, and this is very important: Anyone who thinks that all MMO players are geeks/nerds/etc have apparently not grown up in modern society. Computers and computer games are as mainstream as football, baseball, and other sports. It's time for all of you backwards jocks to get over it and get used to it.
I love how people come in here and say, your a nerd, get a girlfriend this and that. If you are here making fun of us you are just as much of a nerd in my opinion. I dont really know alot of badasses with hot girlfriends that sit on a forum discussing world of warcraft and making fun of ppl who play it, lol. Whatever makes you feel better. Thanks for he insults, have fun.
anyone who says that only geeks or nerds play wow is an idiot. 90% of us are in relationahips and have jobs and lead normal lives. just because we dont play stupid john madden football or halo doesnt mean we are geeks, those games suck and are for intellectually inferior people. actually, people that play wow are in fact better than you...at life
Tolkien must be rolling in his grave.
I would like to take a survey to see if my idea is correct.
People who like Guild Wars probably like the PS3 for its graphics
and People who like (WoW as in myself)probably like the Wii for its fun
Please leave a comment if my assumptions are correct
dont like consoles
Has anyone seen the southpark on WoW? I think that sums up the WoW community pretty well.
RE: Crackerjack543Jan 11th, 2007 - 23:25:07
Guild wars is such a better game and WOW just copied the idea of Guild Wars. Guild War doesn't have the monthly fee either.
RE:
Your an idiot, learn the facts before you talk a load of bollox. Thx.
Actually, Gabe, I don't care much for hot pockets.
'GW has released 2 expansions in the last year'
-I'm assuming you had to pay for these.
-It was ponted out that these are similar to free patches given for WoW
'I like GW becuase there it's free to play once you buy it.'
-While you aren't paying monthly fees, the expansion turn into semi-annual fees.
-The reason GW has releases expansions much faster than WoW is that because they aren't getting monthly fees like WoW they have to get money other ways.
Although i'll admit that GW is cheaper in upkeep after you buy it, it is still in no way entirely free afterwards.
I have been playing WoW for a couple months or so. It is definitely the most fun I have had in a game in a long time. If you want to go do quests or kill monsters on your own, you can...if you want to join up with other people to do quests or kill monsters, you can...if you want to spend the entire time fishing, you can! You can do basically whatever you want to in this game. The depth of gameplay is incredible, there is so much to do.
I don't play all the time, but I would play more if I could ;-)
The name of this game says it all...World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade particularly 'the burning crusade'. Isn't that what we are doing with any conflicts we are in today? Saying essentially that we are waging a holy war or crusade against all the 'evil doers' of the world? Please lets seek sanity. Let us develop and play games that raise us up, teach something of value and leave behind the glorification of war, conquest and destruction...Thanks to the makers of this and similar games we stand to lose our children...do these game makers have children? I doubt it and if they do I pity them...
World of Warcraft = awsome
Guild Wars = ..
Why ..
WoW is £8.99 a month and your paying for a great game ..
Guild Wars sucks, end of. I actually just can't even talk about it as its that lame, soz. You pay for the game then you actually gota buy expansion packs for like £30. Screw tht.
Note to Guild Wars fanboys - your all faggots. Kthx.
:)
Getitgotitgood, you have never played WoW apparently. The game isnt about war and im positive WoW isnt the reason there is war today. doubt they had games in the 1800s and 1900s, ppl like you are so dumb it scares me. WoW is not just a game that you go and start wars with things and distruct. you create, sell, learn to get along with others and it an Teach you the importance of getting along with others becouse the way the game is set up, if you get along well with others you get the best items. SO in my opinion WoW can teach us somthing and your opinion on how it is teaching us to have wars and stuff like that you are way off and you should actually try to know what you are talking about before you go on and complain to ppl who play it.
Sorry about my spelling, way to look at the name and call the game bad and distructive. I think we call that prejudice, lol
I am the wife of an avid WoW player and it sucks... The game is a huge time sucker and my husband is hopelessly addicted...our son and I miss out because he has this online group of 'friends' that he runs around a play world pretending to be assorted people/animals/gnomes. It's silly. Not only that but, as someone who loved mario bros games (as a teenager)-once you die you should have to start over, but then I guess nobody would play...no redeeming values in my opinion If you play and have a family/significant other/life, you should find something to do that includes the 'real' people in your life rather than staring at a computer screen and becoming more antisocial by the minute....
@getitgotitgood:
What are you on about?
Quoted from http://www.WoWWiki.com :
'The Burning Crusade is a vast war of destruction with the goal of razing every world that had been ordered and shaped by by the ancient titans. It is a great war that rages beyond the ken of normal mortals. The universe houses innumerable worlds, and the Burning Legion currently invades a handful of them. Most mortals are blind to this secret conflict, but the wisest and strongest know of it - and some are heroes and leaders in this war. Champions from Azeroth and many other worlds battle across the cosmos, attempting to drive back the Burning Legion and keep the embattled planets safe from demonic corruption. Theirs is a desperate, epic war, and they welcome any who would join them. Beings of all sorts join forces - humans and draenei fight alongside orcs, high elves alongside night elves. Old rivalries are thrown aside in the face of the ominous legion. All who fight this secret war know that, despite the posturing and ambition of individual demon lords, Kil'jaeden was always Sargeras' second. He is the Legion's true leader. Out in the Great Dark Beyond, Kil'Jaeden waits as demons and mortals die, biding his time for his minions to grow strong once again.'
WOW is a great escapist entertainment outlet. It is like directing your own movie in some respects. The player demographic is about as diverse as you can in a game. Its basically the world population playing the game. You have parents that play with their children, couples, networks of colleagues and working professionals; the list and combinations of the REAL people that play is infinite. Numbers don't lie. WOW is just a great game. It is rewarding, its fulfilling and with moderation is a great entertainment vehicle. I am looking forward to playing the next evolution of WOW when my 1 year old son becomes old enough to play with me. I am not a geek. I am an architect and my wife is a physician and she plays with me. Remember, men lie, women lie, numbers don't! Stop being so critical of something that really is awesome. Try it. You'll like it.
I am a 46 year old married father of three a grandfather of one. My kids tried to get me to play WoW with them for the past year and I took the plung in November. I sure wish I had not waited so long, the game is a total blast. Now I have to convince my wife to give it a try!
I'm sorry, but for those of you who spend $180 a year to play ANY online game. . . you're either retarded, have more money than you need, or you're 13 and your parents love keeping you in their home so they can watch over you, and make sure you never procreate.
I played the game for awhile, and just got really burned out at lvl34. Tried playing around with other classes, but it just didn't appeal to me. That, and i didn't like knowing i was paying for a game, that i already paid for. That aspect has NEVER sat well with me.
Two years, and $360+ later, what do you have to show?
An mmorpg is an mmorpg is an mmorpg. New aspects and new terrain to play are nice, but i can't force myself to sit in front of a computer that long, and on top of that, pay someone to enjoy my own computer.
wife of a wow player, i understand its taking up alot of there time and that and they maybee they to play alittle less, but it IS real people that you play with jut becouse your not in the same room doesnt mean that they arent real people and they play the game how they would act in real life. So it isnt just a fantacy and fake people. Its not silly or stupid but i would suggest that they play alittle less if thats the issue.
I'm a professional (37 years old) that makes a little more then 60K a year, married, have an 18 year old daughter, and I own two homes. I enjoy playing WOW a few nights a week. It's better then vegetating in front of the television watching some rediculous sitcom each night as I'd be willing to bet many of the critics of WOW do.
To 'OnlineGamer', you need to not be so critical and make broad assumptions about people who are willing to pay for online gaming. I am by no means rich and I work hard for a living but Christ I've paid $180 for a nice meal for 3 people. It's only money you can't take it with you. Jeesh.
This log of comments reminds of the Red vs Blue short 'Reality vs The Internet'.
It's obvious that nobody responding is based in any sort of consensus reality. In other words you are all mentally masturbating your opinions all over the screen of my consciousness and I would appreciate it if you clean up the mess.
Gamers are girls
Warcraft is a good game
Guild Wars is not an MMORPG (in a traditional sense)
and stereotypes are old-school, give your types in 7.1 sound please!
Hmm, sounds like you're title will be changed to 'Ex-Wife of a WoW Player.' Let me know when you want to take a night out. :)
Hi its funny to read posts, because you can see who has ever played a game and who hasn't and that's the break point of every post in this topic.
Anyway... its not bad if you havent played a game, its just that your point of view is going to be different in a big part from the other persons who has, and all this came into play because so many persons wrote about the players being nerds or dorks or whatever and its super funny to read them cause a lot of persons that myself are working persons, I have a wife, a child, we do stuff out of the game too, but when it comes to a moment when we (my wife and I) want to spend just to have fun and waste some time we go to the game and have a heck of a time.
Anyway... live your lives as good as you can and dont judge if you havent tried it before... because I have a theory and I guess its pretty accurate in what it says ' THERE IS ALWAYS A GAME FOR EVERY A TYPE OF PERSON OUT THERE' what I mean is... if you'd try the right for you, you'd become a 'dork' or at least thats what 'you' say...... of course not, you'd only be enjoying a great time on yourlsef or with someone else in a different way.
Peace everyone.
I wanted to correct that Taiwan is not a 'region' of the People's Repbublic of China ('PRC'). The Communist government of China does not excercise authority over the Island, and has never ruled the island. The PRC regularly boycotts Taiwan and threatens to take over the island by force. Your description of Taiwan as a 'region' of China is like saying Austria is a part of Germany, is offensive to many Taiwanese citizens(with the exception of 1 million mainlanders who settled there after 1950).
I have a life, couple of kids, husband, house, dogs, cats... and I enjoy playing WOW. I don't watch soap operas, I don't watch evening television, in fact, for the past 5 months, our cable box hasn't been hooked up to the TV. We don't miss it!
If gaming isn't for you, don't knock those who enjoy it, we're just normal people, like you. You may like to watch TV, we like to interact in the online community of our server. We meet new people, we even get together with some who live close by and talk of things other than WOW! Amazing, I know, but not all WOW players are the guy on South Park, nor are we all fat and lazy. In fact, I have a very full life, so does my husband, so do my children (I'm a soccer mom for the first time, after being a mom for 22 years).
WOW is a cool game, our whole family plays and we all have fairly different playing styles (daughter likes to fish, chat with people and makes things out of the mats we send her, son likes PVP, other son likes raid instances with his guild).
Why knock other people's choices? If you like another game, why are you here, reading about WOW? And, for heaven's sake, why are you calling other people names for enjoying their game as much as you enjoy your game? or any other activity that you like participating in?
I have been a gamer since I was a kid, riding my bike to the local arcade with a pocket full of quaters. I am now 35, married, and have two kids ages 1 and 3, a professional IT career earning a little over 100k, a house and 2 cars, and a WOW account for last 6 months. I haven't much time to play, rarely time for a long instance but I do enjoy the game for a few nights a week (being careful not to piss off my wife by getting too involved in the game). Its time I would probably be spending watching TV, and WOW is way more fun and involved socially than many might think. I played GW for a month, its good but I think WOW is better by far.
this is a kiddie game, ment for children and low teens, most of the 8 million players are those, and a good majority are chinese farmers.
obviously there going to have lots of gamers. They made diablo 2 lod popular what you makes you think this isn't going to be.
WoW tha best, men
I'd have to agree that WoW is a great game but paying 14.95 per month to play a game is over the top. After paying for Internet service, the game, plus computer upkeep that can come to a substancial amount of money. The problem to me is that people are a lot more incline to play WoW more often due to that they are 'paying to play' I'd also have to say that social interaction in a game is a poor substitute for direct interaction. I know several people of whom that have literally given up their social lives just to play this game. It's like they are addicted to it. Games of this type can be and should be fun but there are Guilds that take it so serious, I don't see how it could be any fun at all.
PS....Leroy Jenkins is my Hero! hehe.
guildwars blows wow away by a long shot the graphics r way better than wow. wow may have more players but gw is beter
agreed, and they were develoing their story lines and such long before guild wars was even in production with the warcraft series.
In my personal opinion WoW beats the snot out of GW, its just a better ame, i ahve tried both btw.
PEOPLE PEOPLE PEOPLE!!! STOP FOR A SECOND!
And please, don't be lazy, take a moment and read this:
I've tried both Guild Wars and World of Warcraft. I admit, I never owned World of Warcraft, but I played it for at least 2 hours non-stop with a level 60 character belonging to a friend, so I got both a first impression, and overall 'how was this after playing for a bit' impression. And since I own Guild Wars, I can talk about it too.
What I noticed earlier in argument was this that I'd like to talk about first:
Someone said that paying for Guild Wars expansions is like playing a semi-annual fee instead of a monthly fee. True, IF you buy the expansions. But you can just buy the first game (Prophecies), or just the second game (Factions), or just the third game (Nightfall), and play them standalone and choose not to buy any expansions if you don't want to. Sure, you're limited to the continents that each game has on it's own, but if you like playing with just that, you don't need to buy any expansions (not mandatory), and you can play from that point on forever without spending another dime (unless you CHOOSE to). With WoW, there is no choice in the matter after buying the initial game, you pay to play for month to month whether you want to or not. That is the major difference in terms of fees. Guild Wars, after initial purchase, are up to you (if you buy the expansions) but are not required to enjoy the game. WoW is another story.
That out of the way, I'll go on to my main point:
They are both good games, but they're aimed at different audiences. Understand? ENTIRELY DIFFERENT AUDIENCES.
World of Warcraft is for people who don't mind spending money to play from month to month, and will make good use of the time they pay for it (or if they're just rich, they'll play when it suits them with no worries). People of all ages take part in this game, and USUALLY have guaranteed times through the week they know they can play for. Why else would you pay month to month if you had no time?
Guild Wars is for people who may or may not want to play as much as people who spend time on WoW (this is a generalization, don't take it the wrong way if it's not this way for you). People who play GW can go for a few months, for example, without playing, but can pick the game up again later and continue on when they have time without spending anymore money to resubscribe. It's a great game for me particularily, because I have a lot going on in my life, so it's not wasted money for me if I decide to put the game down for a while. I'm not having to get my money's worth from a monthly fee.
It's about the audience you're in people, you can't compare them, because in a lot of cases, they're just too different, and there is a minority where there is overlap and the audiences may be the same, but what drives them to one game or the other could be a smaller factor, like having friends on a certain game, or being attracted to a specific element of said game.
I like Guild Wars for the following reasons:
1. No fee
2. No feeling obligated to get my money's worth
3. I can play at my convenience
4. It has enough to keep me satisfied
5. It is stunning to look at and explore
6. I have friends to play with
7. No server waiting queues, just log in and go
I like World of Warcraft for the following reasons:
1. Lot's of people to play with due to popularity
2. Less restrictions on what or where you can explore
3. An more organized auction system than GW
For myself, Guild Wars has more to offer, and for you, WoW might have more to offer. But all in all, if you're reading this and are on the fence as to which game is best for you, go with Guild Wars. You'll spend approximately 39.99 USD (I think), and if you don't like it, at least you're only down that amount. It's less than paying for WoW and a subscription and then deciding you don't like it. Best start with the cheaper one and use the process of elimination. Chances are, if you're a college student with a full course load and an active social life, GW is for you (or if you're a rich student with all of the above, go play WoW at your own risk).
I just left World of Warcraft. The support there has really diminished since the first day. I've been playing since early beta. Just waiting for warhammer mmo to be released.
world of warcraft is probaly the greatest ame ever made. who ever think that it isent good should just go kill themeselves
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so what is better GW or wow
i play wow all my friends play gw. But i dont care about that i like how big the game is and how manny players there are playing.
Gw isn't a bad game but i really dislike the lvl 20 cap. And i also dislike that there is a end boss in every expansion.
thank you jask as you might be one of the only people that know the reality of the case. alot of WoW players are people with a spouse and kids with an honest living. WoW is only a game and should be enjoyed by anyone interested in the game. Im not saying that those who are addicted to the game are right either because you cant live stuck to the computer screen forever, but if you like it then play it or try it out if you havent played. I thought it was a dumb game at first but after I tried it, it was pretty fun.
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