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By Derek Boiko-Weyrauch Feb 2, 2007, 20:38 GMT
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The Wii and the PS3 are definitely in different categoes...
Wii...selling like hotcakes category.
PS3...not selling category
The Wii and the PS3 are definitely in different categories...
Wii...selling like hotcakes category.
PS3...not selling category
Yeah, he's right. The wii is an impulse buy that tells your brain not to buy trash like the ps3. Apparently, Sony thinks this console war is about putting in a bunch of technology no one needs and telling people if you want to afford my piece-of-crap system you might have to take out the mortgage. Games...what? Sony's arrogance has once again gone too far. Nintendo's got it right. People play games because they are fun!, and Sony seems to have forgotten that.
In the 80's Nintendo ruled the roost and for good reason. It was simply the most entertaining video game unit available. Then it was said that games on the amiga and 286 would overwhelm Nintendo, that sega's genesis console with superior graphics would wipe it out of existance. Here we are in 2007 and Nintendo is still kicking because they focus on fun, entertaining games. They have the model and the history. What they lacked in the last few generations (game cube) were the great, exclusive games. All it would take is this generations Zelda, Mario Bros, or Metroid to push it to the top.
If Sony has the intestinal fortitude to withstand lackluster sales and widespread ridicule, the PS3 will prevail--in the long, long run. That's why they built a machine that won't need to be completely re-engineered in 5 years.
People are thinking they will get the Wii in addition to one of the higher priced systems. So may as well get it now. Weird that the platform makers can't get more games on launch. 'Killer App' ?
Indeed, I am not a console gamer, but I have been looking for a Wii as the included sports game interests me as a way [one piece of a myulti pronged approach] of getting fit :-) (Tennis in my living room). I have been driving around to various stores (I am not in a hurry so I stop by occasionally) and they are always out of the Wii, but they have PS 3 (both 20 and 60gb versions) on the shelf. This has happened to me several times now that I noticed PS 3 machines on the shelf waiting to be bought.
Yeah, the Wii is an impulse buy, just like M&Ms. I know I always see people lining up outside stores before they open just waiting for the next shipment from Mars.
Sony needs to get out of denial and get with the program.
I own both PS3 and Wii, the Wii is definitly fun, however it lacks the online play that the PS3 has. The great thing is that if you can afford a PS3 you can always buy a Wii as well since it's price is nothing compared to PS3 price. Only downfall of Wii is no DVD player.
Ok lets see the features of PS3--Blu-Ray DVD (Nah, gotta wait to see who wins the HD Wars (oldies remember Beta vs VHS?) and own multiple DVD players now--check), then there's the online feature (Nah, have my souped-up Velocity PC for that--check),60GB disk (Nah, got 320GB in PC--check), high-end graphics (Nah, got nvidia
I am Wii owner and I imagine there will be
a PS3 in my future as well...but not for $600!
My decision NOT to buy a PS3 right away was made
the day they announced the price.
My decision TO buy a Wii was made the first time
I played one and saw how much fun it was.
Neither decision was in any way based on 'impulse'.
PS3 will prevail and u all know it. u just can't afford it
Yeah Sony is totally going to prevail. We all know that the brand name is way more important than having fun.
or you could get an xbox 360 for the same price as the wii...
Sony has good products, but it needs to share it with the rest of the world. Why would I buy something that is a house payment? I have a wii and the entire family can play it. the kids love bowling, and supermonkey ball. I can't justify spending the money for xbox360 or ps3. let alone games are 59.99. so far the wii can be considered the first real internet appliance. the service is free and has lots of stuff.(how about paying for web tv). I feel that nietendo is not trying to rob you. they are making a fun product.
The PS3 might prevail in the long run... or it could end up like the Neo Geo, forever too expensive and complex. With Sony's financial backing it won't die out completely like Neo Geo, but it could end up a distant 3rd. Games on the 360 look just as good, and it undercuts the price by $200 because they don't force an HD-DVD drive on you.
I can't wait for the PS4, which you shove up your nasal cavity & into your frontal lobe, now we're talking!
great. with all this technology out, next-gen gaming is going to be fantastic, no matter what console u own. i understand that ps3 is expensive, and will wait a while before i buy one (cheaper than a blu-ray player), but cant wait till killzone 2 and tekken come out. The wii looks like it rocks with a bunch of cartoony characters, a nice FAMILY machine, playing monkeyball? dont know what that is and dont wanna(sounds fruity), but the zelda (as always) looks like it kick arsenal. one thing about the wii, is that if i want family time, ill watch some scooby doo or pokemon. 360 has g.o.w. and have heard many times that is a great game(please dont tell me anymore PLEASE). we should all be happy cause with all this competition, better games will come out again and again, and the one to gain is the gamer. im in heaven.
Pc gamers need not apply comment
I like PS3 to play games not to watch Hi-Def movies. I don't want to pay extra for something I don't need.
Chicks will come over and play the Wii with you and have fun, they see the PS/3 is for dorks and they don't care about that - for this generation of games, Wii is the only one with a Chick approval factor......
Wi want to rule your world. Too bad Sony didn't think of it first.
[this is an official impulse post]
If you think playing a game called supermonkeyball sounds 'fruity' consider that all that killing and explosions your bad ass is creating is pixels on a damn tv screen. You are so hardcore cool man. Whoa, nobody is more hardcore than somebody sitting on his couch pushing buttons. Videogames are fun, but they don't make you a tough guy, no matter how much you pay for them.
And that's why I bought another ps2 instead of the ps3.
Well, for hardcore PC gamers, you already have your computer for all the high end graphic and processing power. The Wii and the 360 are for when friends are over or when you want to play on XBox Live and such. PS3 is just something thats cool but its there and its kinda expensive so unless you have $600 laying around somewhere not doing anything, most likely you will not get it.
Oh, screw that, I'd rather play Oldschool NES. ;)
I think that sony's ps3 is just a pice of crap because eventhough if it has 1080p graphics just one game, so far has been developed wiht that graphic(nba 07); however, xbox 360 has 720p graphic, which are most of sony ps3 games' graphic and it cost 200 lest. nevertheless, nintendo's wii is $250.00 dollars and eventhough it lack HD or Blu-ray disc, it stills reproduces in HD format (480p). so way to pay that much for something with no meaning and besides eventhough if nintendo doesn't win the race for the sales, so far they have sold more than 3.5 millions wii, on the contrary to the ps3, which is 1.3 millions. The numbers are talking.
Why get PS3 when you can buy the Xbox 360 AND the Wii? I can't believe how crazy people are to spend six hundred bucks for good graphics! The Xbox 360 has graphics that are not far away from the PS3. Some people just buy the PS3 to show off. I buy video games to have fun.
PS3 rules. I have played or purchased every gaming console since Sears Pong in 70's and obviously atari 2600. Get a grip, ps3 is the bomb. Don't be a hater cause you don't have one.
Somehow I doubt Jay was even born in the 70's given his wording...
Anyway, all these Wii vs. PS3 posts are the same. A few PS3 fanboys but mostly everyone agrees that the Wii kicks the PS3's butt.
- When you go to the store you see lines for the Wii while the PS3 sits on the shelf.
- When you turn on TV you see all kinds of shows talking about/playing with Wii's but the PS3 is nowhere to be found.
- Wii sales are more than double PS3 sales.
- When there's large gatherings of gamers (like gameshows) and a Wii and PS3 are around, Wii gets all the lovin.
- Can anyone think of a PS3 YouTube video? I haven't seen any..
While Sony opted for a high end machine, Nintendo decided to give us something completely new. Even if we didn't know before it's clear now that gamers were craving innovation. Nintendo delivered.
People said it was the war to end all wars. Sony said there would be no hunger. This was back in 1987, when the world was still young. Well, Sony lied, and people died. Disenfranchised children roam the streets of every major metropolitan city in the world these days.
Corporate greed.
Corporate greed causes cancer, global starvation, and, yes, even herpes. Sony has pretty much single-handedly ruined the world with its products. Someone must stop this madness!
Seen some comments... but remember video games were originally designed for people to sit on their behinds and escape reality, not to get active, and most gamers are like that (Do I need to argue?). That's why I have this feeling that Wi is just an impulse and doesn't serve the purpose of PS3. And games are becoming so sophisticated, you'll need more than a 4.3Gb DVD disc to store them... So Sony have obviously built the machine to last, that's why they couldn't care about the price at the moment, and I'm sure the most supportive fans of Wi will be lured to PS3 once Wi's and XBox360's graphics becomes dated in the next few years.
This is a no-brainer. Unless Sony drops the price to the 399.00 range it will sit on the shelf gathering dust. It may be the coolest hardware out there - but it is TOO expensive. Sitting in line (many times) to purchase a Wii for my kids I heard the same thing from the other parents in line. My guess is that Nintendo could have sold another 1M for Xmas if they were available. I could have purchased a PS3 many times, even before Xmas, nobody wanted them. In fact talk to the GameStop people and they will all tell you that they are getting more from returns than selling.
The PS3 has just about 1 thing on the 360, sound quality and you need to shell out another few hundred bucks to have the equipment to use it. Plus the developers are having trouple with the blu-ray disks, sure they hold a ton on them but the don't load fast enough. When Bethesda was porting oblivion to the PS3 they had place the same info on the same disc over and over just to get it to load fast enough. Sony's biggest mistake was when they tried to use the cell for graphics too. Its the same reason that you use a GPU in a computer, cpu's are build for mathematical processes not rendering graphics. So in the end they paniced and had NVidia rig one up for them. Both the Wii and 360 had ATI build GPU's specifically for their systems. I personally forsee some problems to from this.
In response to anyone who says that the Wii's downfall is it's lack of internet play:
As of right now the Wii does not support online play. Until Nintendo can get some stuff sorted out it won't have it. But there will be online play soon so don't worry. It'll just be a small update or maybe a big huge one with lots of new stuff. It will be completely free too (except for the game of course).
I'm pretty sure sony doesn't make it's own PS servers and makes the dev's do that. If that's the case I'm sure we'll see less online games and more games with higher prices.
PS3 stinks and the Wii rules. Just a funny little thing I want to tell everyone: When I went to Best Buy to get my Wii there were a whole bunch of PS3's there and no one even cared. I started laughing about it and some guy asked me why I was laughing and when I told him he started laughing too. I'm such a nerd.......
PS3 will win in the long run because the price will drop over time and the technology will still be state of the art. Xbox will have to release 2 or 3 more generations before catches up and by then the PS4 will be on the way. Wii is a fad that will burn out within a year or two because cartoony games can only be done and redone so many times.
All of the above has already happened before. History always repeats itself.
All you PS haters are just jealous because you're too poor to afford the PS3. Poor folks always talk shite when they can't get with the richer. You're all pathetic.
PS3 is for the intelligent and well off. Better quality, better technology, better games, better graphics, better functions. All you retards need to learn the biggest life lesson and that is you get what you pay for. Any cheapo who doesn't understand that will always be an hourly working slave living in a dumpy house and wishing for better things in life.
PS3 is just getting started. Anybody who writes it off this soon is a complete moron.
The PS3 is a year behind and doesn't really have a noticable difference from the 360. and sure the price will go down some. But to be honest the technology in the PS3 isn't that much better than the 360, its last years tech they just delayed it because they couldn't get it right. Also, think of why the PS2 outsold XBOX. They were earlier and cheaper and had more games, but the XBOX was twice as powerful and had awesome online (especially compared to its competitors who didn't have online). The PS3 is only slightly more powerful than the 360 at best and its almost twice as expensive and to top it off it came out a year late. Who's gonna do better? by the previous model of PS2 vs. XBox the 360 is going to do the best. And PS3 is gonna have more and/or better games? Bull! they lost almost all of their product loyalty all they really have left is Final fantasy and Tekken. 2 words that will give the 360 dominance Halo 3. Think how much the first 2 sold. Then also consider that even Bungie thinks they should have and could have done better on Halo 2 and consider how many still sold.
Microsoft did it best this time around. Nothing can be said against that, they have the smaller, cheaper and sexier box. They have better online. And to top it off they HAD A YEAR HEAD START to fully cement their game base and get the bugs out before the other consoles were released.
Alright folks, let's set a few things straight here about the consoles. Note: these are the facts as how I see it. If you disagree, that is your opinion and I won't insult you for it. PS3 fanboys, if you don't have a concrete comment, stuff it. 'Just 'cuz PS3 rulez!' doesn't cut it with me.
X-Box 360
- Reasonably priced
- Great online capability and Windows XP MCE Integration
- Lots of good games.
- Been longer than most consoles, thus equaling more established roots.
- Not overly complicated to work.
- Nice size for a console.
Nintendo Wii
- Fairly priced
- New and interesting style of gameplay. Though, it takes getting used to.
- While lacking in online components at the moment, the weather and news channels are handy. Built-in opera web browser is nice to have, don't need to boot your PC to check your webmail.
- Nintendo has been around for a while and will always be remembered for fun gameplay.
- Not completely marketed 'for kids,' Red Steel from Ubi is pretty gory and graphics are sweet. Also, they're not cartoony.
- Built-in SD card slot and photo viewer is nifty to share photos with loved ones.
- Only console that my girlfriend likes to play on (asides from the Game Cube).
- Small and highly portable.
Sony Playstation 3
- Prices are a little steep for most, but cheaper than a decked out gaming PC.
- Cheapest Blueray player that you can buy, for now until NEC releases its dual-format (Blueray/HD-DVD) player.
- Possibly *the* most advanced console on the market, so far.
- Wireless, 6 axis tilt sensitive controller isn't bad.
- Integrates nicely with the PSP wirelessly.
- A little chunky as well as heavy, so not too many people are gonna bring this thing out to parties.
- A few more things, but I don't have experience with them to comment.
My personal favorite at the moment: The Wii
Reasons: It has a lot of potential with its wireless controller. We could see some productivity apps that could tie in with the DS (with it's touchscreen) as well. Also, being Canadian, winter makes it kinda hard to exercise with -20-30 C temps and the Wii Sports has a pretty good work out mode, I've lost some weight due to it.
However, I give the X-Box 360 and PS3 props for their respective features as well. Right now, I'm using the Wii to help get into shape. Plus, you can't fit a home gym into a dorm room and the college gym is always packed.
Price may not be the only difference, either. Anyone notice that the sales of the Wii DOUBLED the combined sales of the PS2 AND the PS3.
I'm always amazed by the rhetoric about the PS3. I finally was able to get my hands on one yesterday at my local Gamestop! Absolutely amazing system!
But these articles and silly talk about Wii and PS2 outselling the PS3 I find a little amusing. And also a little annoying, since a lot of them are designed to deliberately mis-lead the public in general.
The PS2 was/is a great system. One of the best systems ever introduced. The price is dirt cheap by now, since it has been around a long time. There are great games available for it, and if you don't have HDTV, and all you can afford is a PS2, you can still buy a decent gaming system.
The same with the Wii. It's a system that is easily affordable, hence it sells strongly and it also has some happy fun family type games to play. People that love Super Mario and Legend of Zelda, (I was always a fan) will buy that system. Cheaper than the 360 and the PS3.
Those two systems are for the serious gamers, and the ones who can afford higher quality gaming systems.
They are also forward based.
I own both the 360 and the PS3 and love them both. I may even buy the Wii at some point if I have a few extra bucks. But for me, the decision to buy the PS3 and the 360 was made because I want high quality games, and know the better ones will be written for those systems over the coming years.
More and more households are going to HDTV's and the Wii and yes, even the good old reliable PS2 will see less and less action as time goes by.
Its a credit more to the PS2's (and Sony's) great success with the old reliable PS2 that it still sells so well, rather than some dark omen for the PS3, as some nit wits continue to think.
The fact that the PS3 and the 360 are selling and selling well (even at the higher price tag) means people are accepting the systems. 1.5 million PS3's sold and counting is not a failure rate for the PS3. And the 360, having a head start is still well ahead of that.
It should come as no surprise that the Wii and the PS2 sell more units than the 360 and PS3, when they are so cheap, almost anyone can afford to buy one without breaking the bank or thinking too hard.
Anyone who thinks the 360 and the PS3 are going to fail is a complete idiot.
Both systems are doing well.
The better game makers are writing code for those systems hard, knowing it is where the future and money are at. They can do so much more with those sytems graphics wise.
Mario and Zelda look fine to owners of standard Def TV's, but standard def TV's are going the way of the horse-drawn buggy.
Oh, you still see horse-drawn buggies riding around, don't get me wrong, PA is one state you see a lot of them in, in Amish country!
And standard Def TV's are around still also.
Of course, in the next few years, as the FCC in the USA begins to enforce regulations turning off the old over the air NTSC broadcast and exclusively broadcasting the new ATSC standard, those standard def TV's will begin to make nice paperweights. (you may want to read up on just what is going to be happening with the move to HDTV in the next few years, they are turning the lights out on the old standard, and it is Federally mandated...)
Once the HDTV's are common-place, watching and playing old-school game systems is going to be a lot less appealing.
And at that point, you better hope they have reduced the price of a PS3 or a 360, cause the Wii fans will be feeling a little left out!
The wii may well be a nice niche place machine, something to pick up as a side system when I am bored and want to try something different.
But for serious gaming? Serious graphics?
No thanks! I'll stick with my PS3 and my 360! Those systems Rock!
I own the 360 and the wii and the simple reason why I bought thies tow, they costing alsmot the same toogather as a single PS3.
May be one day I will buy a ps3, but for now, I thing I rather save my money for a real good Hd-Tv, so i can eaven enhjoy my 360 eaven more, after taht we will see how mutch the ps3 will cost.
I didn't make it through all the replies here, so I'm sorry if this has been said.
Did Sony not realize that you can acually buy BOTH the Wii & 360 for less than the PS3?! Even if you get the premium bundled 360 it comes to $650- and for an extra $50- I would go for a Wii/360 every single time...
Sony should lower the PS3 price substantially.
The PS3 is a solid system with killer graphics. Its sole downfall is its price. People think Sony is going to lower this price, but I can promise you that's not happening any time soon. They are LOSING a significant amount of money on every console sold, so even a minor decrease in costs isn't going to push the price downwards. If it does happen, it would be an act of desparation, which is probably unnecessary at this point because even a worst-case scenario 3rd place for Sony would leave them making money off of $60 games. Additionally, the 360 and Wii will ALWAYS cost less than the PS3 to produce, so any price decrease by Sony can/will be met with a similar decrease by Nintendo/Microsoft. Meanwhile, the benefits of the PS3 over the 360 are only noticeable if you're a hardcore gamer or Bluray afficianado, and the Wii is in a different category altogether in both its gameplay and the fact that Nintendo actually profits off of every sale.
What does this mean? Gamers who don't care whether or not they have 1080p(which of course also costs an additional $30-$50 for an HDMI cable), are not going to pay the extra $200 for a PS3 when the 360 is sitting right next to it on the shelf. Sony hasn't done a very good job of marketing the PS3(its advertisements try to 'show' its graphical advantage, forgetting the fact that the vast majority of Americans don't own an HDTV and, as a result, cannot differentiate among high-def graphic formats on their TVs), and nearly all of the press it receives is negative(in reference to lackluster sales and its failed attempt to pass off a Bluray drive, a rip-off of Nintendo's controller, and a faster processor as 'innovation') while the Wii is reaching cultural phenomenon status and the 360 is reaping the benefits of an ever-expanding XBox Live service.
Wii's killer app is its innovative/different gameplay. XBox 360's killer app is the popular XBox Live service. The PS3 brings 1080p and Bluray to the table, and is aided by the runaway popularity of the PS2. If Bluray wins the format war, it will be a big boost. However, the recent unveiling of Bluray/HD-DVD combo drives does not bode well for Sony. If the advent of the combo drive allows both formats to survive, and half of the movies coming out are in HD-DVD format, then having a Bluray player in your video game console isn't going to be much of a perk after all. If HD-DVD wins out, we'll see the mention of Bluray gradually slip out of Sony's advertisements. Many analysts have predicted a long-term victory for Sony. Of course, with Sony also taking far greater losses per unit sold, and Microsoft boasting runaway subscription numbers for XBox live, you have to wonder whether Sony can actually be considered a 'winner' if it sells a few million more units that Nintendo or Microsoft. Even the best-case scenario predictions leave the PS3's market share in the shadow of its predecessor's.
Of course, none of this can refute the ever-solid arguments of PS3 fanboys who infer that Microsoft will never be able to reproduce the PS3's technology(maybe they think Microsoft can't afford it?) or that the Wii will go away because video games were invented so that people could sit on their butts(last I checked, video games exist to entertain, chairs exist so you can sit on your butt).
Lastly, I have to ask, why do people get so emotional over video game consoles? If you spent $600 on a PS3, why don't you go spend some time playing with it to recoup that investment, rather than defending your decision to a bunch of people you don't know.
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